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RJ Gaudet & Associates LLC is a law firm registered in Seattle, Washington with a foreign legal entity registered in El Paso, Texas.  The firm was established by American lawyer Robert J. Gaudet, Jr. while he was studying complex litigation in Europe under a Fulbright grant from 2007 to 2008.

Taking the Oath of a Lawyer

December 20, 2017 @ 1:05 am

On December 19, 2017, Karin Gaudet-Asmus was sworn into the California bar association by the Honorable David Guaderrama of the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Texas in El Paso.  The judge complimented her for passing one of the country’s hardest bar exams and noted it is especially an accomplishment for someone who speaks English as a second language.  Mrs. Gaudet-Asmus’s native language is Dutch and she is a proud member of the local Dutch community in El Paso.  It was very gracious of Judge Guaderrama, his clerks, and his bailiff/guard to make time for Mrs. Gaudet-Asmus’s swearing-in ceremony.  Congratulations, Mrs. Gaudet-Asmus!

In November 2017, the U.S. Court of Federal Claims in Washington, D.C. approved a $1.7 million settlement of FLSA and COBRA claims that Robert J. Gaudet, Jr. co-prosecuted against the U.S. Government on behalf of employees of the Customs and Border Protection Service who took a training course for canine detection – in El Paso, Texas and Front Royal, Virginia – but were not paid compensation for after-hours time spent studying.

Court approval is required for any settlement of a FLSA claim.  Although the Government argued no such approval was necessary, the Court sided with arguments researched and drafted by Mr. Gaudet that were submitted to the Court as part of extensive legal briefing.  “I am proud to have been a part of this case on behalf of Canine officers in the Border Patrol who were not paid for training time that benefited their employer, the U.S. Government,” said Mr. Gaudet.

Mr. Gaudet is a lawyer licensed in Texas and Washington who works on cases across the United States with co-counsel. He is also a member of the National Employment Lawyers Association (NELA).  Mr. Gaudet is currently prosecuting another case in Washington, D.C. on behalf of employees of a seafood distribution company, OceanPro AKA ProFish, that provides seafood to the White House, the CIA, five-star hotels and restaurants, and over 3,000 customers but that misclassifies its employees as “exempt” from wage requirements and fails to pay them for overtime hours in excess of forty hours per week.

Mr. Gaudet is a fifth-generation El Pasoan whose great-great-grandfather moved to El Paso from Zacatecas, Mexico and whose grandfathers moved to El Paso to serve in the military at Ft. Bliss.  Mr. Gaudet worked for five years at a nationwide class action firm in Seattle, spent 7 years practicing law and teaching in Europe, and moved back to the United States with his wife and colleague, Karin Gaudet-Asmus.  He is currently working on cases nationwide including Seattle, California, Virginia, New York, and Washington, D.C.


Years ago, Prof Dr Ingrid Detter challenged then Deputy Prosecutor of the ICC, Fatou Bensouda, that the USA would never join the ICC. The spirited dialogue was part of a panel discussion organized by Robert Gaudet Jr. at an American Bar Association SIL International Human Rights Committee event in Paris. Today, roughly 7 years later, Prof Dr Detter had an opportunityto meet now Chief Prosecutor Bensouda, both pictured below, at the yearly Conference of the Société française de droit international in Lille, France, 20 May 2017.



A giant of the law, Clint Bamberger, passed away in Baltimore, Maryland on February 12, 2017, after a life-time of helping the poor, inspiring students, and living his faith through the practice of social justice, and just 2 days before his first Valentine’s Day alone in 64 years.

I last saw Clint and his wife, Katharine, in their condo in Baltimore a couple of years ago. I knew he had been the first director, in the 1960s, of the nationwide Legal Services Corporation which provides legal services to the poor, appointed by President Johnson.

Clint Bamberger and Robert J. Gaudet, Jr. on May 4, 2015 at the Bamberger residence in Baltimore, Maryland

I did not know (as described in the Baltimore Sun article below) that Clint had argued the Brady case in the Supreme Court. It established the super-famous rule that prosecutors must disclose exculpatory evidence to the defense. That case actually helped one of my former clients, Edwin P. Wilson, who was prosecuted and put in jail for over 20 years after prosecutors withheld exculpatory evidence contrary to the Brady decision. When this was disclosed years later, Edwin Wilson used the Brady decision to vacate his decision and get out of jail after over 20 years. We then represented Edwin Wilson in a lawsuit against the former prosecutors and complainant (many of whom had become federal judges despite having broken the Brady rule as prosecutors years earlier, and one is now a partner at a prestigious D.C. law firm). Our case was dismissed on the grounds of prosecutorial immunity although one person, Stanley Sporkin (former CIA executive director), could have been on the hook, as a defendant, since he was not a prosecutor but claims against him were voluntarily dismissed. So, this Brady decision is super-huge in importance and Clint apparently argued it before the Supreme Court. It would not be a decision today if it were not for Clint’s perseverance in taking the case.

I did not know that Clint was the former Dean of Catholic University law school. I did not know that he helped set up legal aid services in South Africa around 1994, about a year after I had worked in South Africa.

Clint spent his life teaching and helping the poor, driven by his Catholic faith, (aside from the years he worked at Piper Marbury as a partner on presumably corporate matters … but he told me that’s why they later picked him to head the Legal Services Corporation – because he was a buttoned-down partner at an established law firm. That firm, which was perhaps the most famous in Baltimore, has now merged into what is now DLA Piper.)

Robert J. Gaudet, Jr.; Katherine Kelehar (Clint’s wife); and Clint Bamberger at the Bamberger residence on May 4, 2015 in Baltimore

[Pictured: Robert J. Gaudet, Jr.; Katharine Kelhehar; Clint Bamberger; May 4, 2015; at the Bamberger home in Baltimore]

When my wife (Karin Gaudet-Asmus) and I last visited Clint and his wife in their assisted living condo in or near Roland Park, about two years ago, Clint seemed frail but he could walk around with a little bit of trouble. I was worried about his health. But he was as gracious as ever. We were late so we unfortunately missed the food that had been available in the dining hall. I believe his wife, Katharine, made something at the spur of the moment. They were kind to entertain us as visitors and share family news and discuss social justice and events which, at the time, involved the riots in Baltimore for which Karin and I served as legal observers with the National Lawyers Guild. I always found Clint inspiring and full of integrity.

The article, below, says Clint’s wife, Katharine, passed away in December 2016. That is very sad. In 2015, she seemed much younger and healthier when we last saw them together; she helped him walk and get around; and she advised him to take it easy although he was enthusiastic and vigorous as a host. Over the past several days, before his passing, I can only imagine that he might have had tremendous grief in anticipating his first Valentine’s Day alone in over 64 years.

In a visit around 2001 or 2001 to Clint and Katharine’s previous condo at the Inner Harbor (which, I think, the father of my high school classmate, Leo D’Aleo, had built), while I was in law school and figuring out where to move to make a difference, I remember Clint told me that Baltimore was a “dying city” and advised me not to return. I was hoping for some links to class action lawyers or social justice lawyers in Baltimore. But I took his words to heart. I looked into some options in Baltimore but never heard back, e.g. from the Angelos law firm. Unlike defense firms, plaintiff’s and social justice firms do not recruit at top law schools across the country. I was offered a summer position at Piper Marbury (where Clint was once a partner int he 1960s, now called DLA Piper) but I did not want to defend Microsoft against antitrust suits, etc., so I turned it down. In retrospect, maybe I should have looked harder into returning to Baltimore. The fact that it was a “dying city” was no reason not to return. If anything, it might indicate there was an even greater need for new lawyers who, in the mold of Clint, could help the vulnerable and dispossessed.

When I entered the law profession, people like Clint and Jack Greenberg (former dean of my undergraduate college at Columbia University) are what I had in mind. They are what I expected from the profession – changing the world, helping the poor and vulnerable. They are the lights of our profession. Sadly, since becoming a lawyer, I have not met very many lawyers like them, with the same devotion, understanding of real people’s troubles, concern for the world, empathy, ambition to do better for everyone, drive, sense of camaraderie with like-minded spirits. I hope I can remember to follow the example set by Clint and try to carry a small piece of the torch.

Thank you, Michael Susko, for introducing me to him.  I am glad you got to know him through the Catholic church in Baltimore, a place that nourished both of you in your faith to care for others and help the vulnerable as a way of life. This example of Clint’s life is the strongest testament to the immense power that faith can have if one actually lives out one’s beliefs.   -Robert J. Gaudet, Jr.

Karin Gaudet-Asmus; Katherine Kelehar; and Clint Bamberger at the Bamberger residence on May 4, 2015 in Baltimore. Around this time, Karin and Robert served as legal observers for the National Lawyers Guild in Baltimore during the time of unrest


Women are sold like cows in India to be brides, victims of human trafficking. Read more and watch a 30-minute video: http://tinyurl.com/jmqj6r4. Robert Gaudet’s colleague in civil rights litigation, Harish, says girls are drowned in water at birth by midwives in parts of India.  They are not cherished.  To the contrary, in parts of India, people give condolences rather than congratulations when a female child is born.  Help us investigate and make a documentary about these injustices. Harish can introduce an interested filmmaker to midwives who will admit to these practices and can be filmed. Contact this firm, RJ Gaudet & Associates LLC, if you are interested in doing something about these grave human rights violations that should trouble anyone with a conscience.  Baby girls do not deserve to be scorned and murdered simply because of their gender. Serious inquiries only, please.  Thanks to Robert J. Gaudet, Jr.’s mother, Barbara Gaudet, for bringing this 30-minute video to his attention.



Today, Robert J. Gaudet, Jr. secured a default judgment against Defendant John L. Henry.  The clerk of the federal court in Nebraska issued the judgment pursuant to a motion filed by Mr. Gaudet and his co counsel, Dallas lawyer J. Hamilton McMenamy.  The judgment was rendered on behalf of the Estate of Joyce Petersen, a now-deceased widow who was cheated out of $150,000 that she loaned to Nebraska resident John Henry under a Promissory Note that promised repayment within 2 years plus interest. Mr. Henry never paid back a dime.

Mssrs. Gaudet and Hamilton will continue to prosecute the lawsuit against remaining defendants including William E. Bitters, the financial advisor who cajoled Ms. Petersen into taking money out of a safe annuity and loaning it to Mr.  Henry, and his partner, Robert Boland.  Mssrs. Gaudet and Hamilton recently drafted an Amended Complaint with RICO claims against these defendants who similarly advised another person, Mr. Nelson, to loan money to the same John L. Henry. Mr. Nelson never got his money back either.  Mr. Gaudet is admitted pro hac vice in federal court in Nebraska.


Suicide front cover

On Thursday, June 23, 2016, Britons vote on whether to leave or remain in the European Union (“EU”), spurred on by a new book called “Suicide of Europe” by Prof. Dr. Ingrid Detter de Frankopan that encourages Britain to leave.


“I used to be a great fan of the European Union and the European idea but I feel I have been cheated,” said Prof. Detter in a telephone interview. As a former professor of EU law at Stockholm University and Oxford, she once tutored students on structure and framework of the European Union. Why have her views changed?


She believes the European Union is staffed by “incompetent” bureaucrats. Politicians in Brussels are “not accountable” and they’ve “taken their liberties” with their positions. “Some have gone to prison,” she explained.


“What really got me angry was that I realized that the EU organized the entire migration thing.   They have these offices everywhere, and they say, ‘I’ll tell you, good man, how to get into there. Tell them you lost your passport but don’t tell them you lost your Iphone, and you’ll be fine.’” In short, according to her, the EU has contributed to the recent crisis by encouraging migration.


Because Turkey is a candidate state for membership in the EU, Prof. Detter notes that 80 million Turks could enter the EU and that they believe membership is “quite near.” Turks may have the right, as any EU citizen, to freely migrate and seek work in throughout the EU. Migration is part of what frightens British voters.


Prof. Detter has tapped into this fear with a book, “The Suicide of Europe,” that provides a rationale for emotional concerns. Her book is available through Amazon.co.uk.


Prof. Detter explained several main themes to the shortcomings of the EU: migration; lack of accountability; intrusiveness; and a fortress mentality. In the EU, “you have a handful of people on the top who decide everything.”


Prof. Detter worries that elitists in Brussels “are trying to make a United States of Europe and rub out the nation states. People don’t’ really like that. People like their roots and traditions and their history.” Others, however, may disagree. National, cultural, and linguistic divisions led to devastating wars in Europe and caused a need for greater unity, which was met by the EU’s institutions and legal framework. Since the EU’s founding, there has been unprecedented peace in Europe.


In Prof. Detter’s opinion, the lack of accountability and democracy have led to unwelcome legislation. For instance, she pointed out, “there is an EU regulation that the butter must not be next to the margarine in the shop.” The purpose of the regulation is “so people won’t take margarine by mistake or take the butter by mistake.” This regulation can pose a hardship for a small grocer, like the one in the small French village of 220 in Burgundy where Prof. Detter spends part of the year, without much refrigerated shelf space.


The shopkeeper in Verrey, France told her, “we have such little room here, I am not sure where to put the butter. We have been told we must put it away from the margarine.” Not believing such a rule could exist, Prof. Detter investigated and found that an EU regulation does require the separation of margarine from butter. It is a veritable segregation of dairy products. They must be kept separate but equal in their own refrigerated spaces.


As another example of “idiotic” regulations, Prof. Detter pointed out that “all horses in the EU have to have a passport.” She explained: “they must have a passport because, in some countries, they slaughter them and put them into the food chain and, also, they track the horses in case one of the horses was given hormones.” In essence, the EU “wants to follow the health history of every single horse.”


EU Member States pay annual dues to be a “member of this club.” “When you buy a loaf of bread, 1 percent of what you pay goes to Brussels,” Prof. Detter calculated. There is a minimum VAT of 15 percent in EU Member States that rises to as much as 25 percent in Croatia. “A slice of it goes to the EU,” Prof. Detter indicated. She implied that exiting the EU might lower VAT rates for Britons. In Switzerland, which is not in the EU, the VAT is only 8 percent, she pointed out.
The intertwined economies of EU Member States may have led to inefficient allocations. For instance, “they force people in England to buy beet root sugar from France because they are prohibited from buying sugar from Jamaica because the Jamaicans are not members of ‘the club.’” The result is a “Fortress Europe” that has “a huge wall around it.”


Although most people view the EU as a way to take down boundaries, at least among Member States, Prof. Detter has pointed out that the concept of the EU requires the strengthening of outer wall boundaries. It is a “customs union with a huge wall around it.” Putting it that way, the EU does not sound entirely different from Donald Trump’s vision for America. Some Britons apparently do want a stronger wall around their own nation, not just the EU.


“Fortress Europe” has maintained less trade with other parts of the world outside Europe, Prof. Detter argued. Thirty to forty years ago, she says, Africa was 25 percent of trade but, now, it is down to 5 percent “after the EU started a wall around it.” “The EU is starving the developing world through decreased trade but nobody talks about that.” The EU is making contributions to the developing world but, by Prof. Detter’s calculations, “that is negligible compared to what they destroyed.”


“I’m very angry,” admitted Prof. Detter. “The more I investigated this, the more angry I got.”


Millions of Britons feel the same way, although they might not have the statistics, history, or law as readily at their disposal as Prof. Detter.
As for the lack of transparency, Prof. Detter heard about the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership and tried to find a copy of the text so that she, as an international lawyer, could read it for herself. It was not available. She checked the EU website but it had “a little note attached to the treaty saying this does not include all of the amendments.” She could not find the full text and was alarmed that it “was negotiated in total, total secrecy.”


“It all becomes very suspicious what they are up to if you cannot find a whole text,” she said. Making a reference to President Woodrow Wilson, she remarked, “like Wilson said, we want open treaties, openly arrived at. That was one of his points in 1919.” Of course, everyone knows how President Wilson’s treaty to end WWI fared. The next devastation, WWII, was unfortunately soon to follow.


The lack of sufficient democracy is a long-standing criticism of the EU, often written about in academic literature. Prof. Dr. Detter is not alone with her criticisms, but she is very timely with the release of her new book over the past four weeks, just coinciding with the British vote.


In the past, the EU responded to criticisms about the democracy deficit with reforms that gave the European Parliament more power over legislation and that gave citizens an opportunity to raise issues with the European Commission through a popular petition. However, as Prof. Dr. Detter’s criticisms indicate, these reforms were apparently not enough to appease a majority British voters. Half of them now indicate they’d prefer to leave the European Union.


Ironically, the British debate intertwines with the American debate over whether to build a larger wall with Mexico or exclude Muslims from entering the United States, views expressed by Trump that Democrats and many Republicans have criticized.


For Europeans, migration raises an existential question of who are we but it also raises a practical question of how many migrants, and from where, shall they accept? Prof. Detter points out the EU concluded an association agreement with the Ukraine to allow 43 million Ukrainians to enter and travel without visas throughout Europe. The measure was ratified by all of the EU member states except the Netherlands, and 450,000 Dutch protested against it.


The Dutch government held a referendum and the majority rejected the measure. Rather than accept this popular rejection, the EU said the Dutch had to hold another referendum. Prof. Detter lists this as an example of how “they force things on the Member States like they did in Ireland” and this is part of the “democratic deficit.” The disconnect between Brussels and national sentiments is part of what motivated Prof. Detter to write her book, “The Suicide of Europe.” “They can’t get away with this sort of thing,” she thought, and she strove to “finish” a book that had been on her mind for years.


The vote on June 23 will be historic, whether it results in Britain’s exit (“Brexit”) from the EU or not. Either way, it is a period of soul-searching, deep thinking, and questions about the best way forward. Prof. Dr. Detter’s book is a pointed but useful contribution to the public debate. It is not clear whether the real “suicide” of Europe would result from the continuation of the EU or its weakening through the departure of one of its major contributor nations.


Prof. Detter is an English barrister and Of Counsel to American law firm RJ Gaudet & Associates LLC which handles international law, human rights, civil rights, class actions, and other matters. The views of Prof. Detter do not necessarily reflect those of the law firm.
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Volunteers are welcome to help pack food that will be distributed to homeless teens and others in the Puget Sound area around Seattle.  The volunteer service will take place from 10 am to 12:00 noon on Saturday, June 18, 2016 at a warehouse in Renton, Washington that is marked “Emergency Feeding Program.”  Volunteer efforts for this Saturday are being coordinated by Lawyers Helping Hungry Children (LHHC) board member Marla Zink who can be reached at [email protected].  Children, family, and friends are welcome.  Robert J. Gaudet, Jr. of RJ Gaudet & Associates LLC is a proud board member of LHHC.



By Robert J. Gaudet, Jr.[i]

Karin Gaudet-Asmus and Robert J. Gaudet, Jr. standing before the door to the courtroom in the California Supreme Court immediately after the oral argument on Friday, May 27, 2016.

Karin Gaudet-Asmus and Robert J. Gaudet, Jr. standing before the door to the courtroom in the California Supreme Court immediately after the oral argument on Friday, May 27, 2016.

In oral argument on Friday, May 27 in Laffitte v. Robert Half Int’l, No. S222996 (Cal.), the California Supreme Court gave some indications that it might require class counsel in California to support motions seeking attorney’s fees a percentage of a common fund with a lodestar cross-check. The court showed interest in the possibility of putting boundaries around the discretion of trial courts, on awarding fees, including but not limited to requiring class counsel to submit time sheets, appointing a guardian for the class, or limiting the amount of the lodestar multiplier. A “lodestar cross-check” would require class counsel to present hours expended, hourly rates, and a “multiplier” (e.g. 2 or 4 or another number) to demonstrate that the amount of fees sought as a percentage is similar to the cross-check amount. The underlying decision on appeal, Lafitte v. Robert Half Int’l, Inc., No. B249253, 2014 Cal.App. Lexis 1059 (Cal. 2d App. Dist, Div. 7, Oct. 29, 2014) was a wage and hour class action that settled for $19 million.



On Friday, May 27, 2016, a full panel of seven justices heard Berkeley lawyer Lawrence Schonbrun’s oral argument challenging the way California class action lawyers are paid. On behalf of class member Brennan, Mr. Schonbrun argued that calculating attorney’s fees as a percentage of a common fund is unlawful and that fees should be calculated on the basis of hours worked rather than as a percentage of a settlement. The Supreme Court’s decision on this argument, which will be released within 90 days after last Friday’s hearing, is likely to have significant implications for class action practice in California.


Mr. Schonbrun argued that a 1977 California Supreme Court decision called Serrano III[ii] requires California state courts to award attorney’s fees based upon the number of hours worked. He asked the Supreme Court to prohibit trial courts from awarding fees based on a percentage of a class settlement fund or “common fund.” He argued the current trend by which courts award class action lawyers a percentage of settlements is contrary to Serrano III which sought to protect the prestige of the judiciary and the integrity of the bar by using hours expended as the “starting point of every fee award.”


Does Serrano III Apply to Common Fund Cases?

At the start of the hearing, Chief Justice Cantil-Sakauye pointed out that Mr. Schonbrun’s argument rested on footnote 23 of the Serrano III decision which held that the “starting point of every fee award … must be a calculation of attorney’s services in terms of he time he has expended on the case.” She said, “it seems odd we’d put the language in a footnote” if it was so central to our decision. She suggested that Serrano III might be distinguished because it was not a “common fund” case in the “first place.” Mr. Schonbrun replied she was “focusing on the wrong point” and that Serrano III addressed the equitable power of a court to allocate fees in common funds.


Mr. Schonbrun noted that, although Serrano III was not a common fund case, each one of the two federal cases that Serrano III relied upon, in saying that hours expended are the starting point for a fee determination, was a common fund case. Mr. Schonbrun argued it was “incredulous that the Supreme Court would’ve referred to common fund cases [in Serrano III] and not meant the decision to apply to a common fund.” A common fund is created when class action lawyers negotiate a settlement that pays a certain amount of money (or a “common fund”) to class members. Class counsel often ask for a percentage of this common fund as their attorney’s fees.

Lawrence Schonbrun, the Berkeley lawyer who represented Appellant class member Brennan in argument before the California Supreme Court.

Lawrence Schonbrun, the Berkeley lawyer who represented Appellant class member Brennan in argument before the California Supreme Court.

On behalf of appellees, class counsel Kevin Barnes argued the language in Serrano was dicta and the Supreme Court would not have to reverse Serrano to affirm the lower court’s award of fees as a percentage of the settlement.


Since the Chief Justice was not the only justice posing questions that involved distinguishing Serrano III from common fund cases, it seems possible the Supreme Court will rule that Serrano III does not apply. Justice Werdegar, for instance, asked a question that rested on the premise that the court would distinguish Serrano as a case that did not involve a common fund. Given these lines of questioning, the justices might hold that footnote 23 is dicta, as the appellees urged, and hold that the wording in footnote 23 does not apply to a common fund.


Given the wide scope of questioning and the long duration of oral argument, even if the justices distinguish Serrano, it seems likely they will offer some guidance or parameters on the issue of attorney’s fees in class actions.


The justices seemed to have some concerns over a problem articulated by Mr. Schonbrun: after a class settlement has been reached and class counsel seek a fee, which is taken out of the class’s settlement fund, they “abandon” the class at that stage of the proceedings, Mr. Schonbrun argued. Justice Mariano-Florentino Cuéllar asked Mr. Schonbrun to “unpack that – is the class abandoned?” Mr. Schonbrun argued, “they are trying to reduce the class’s recovery,” the class does not have its own experts to argue against fee applications, and “they’ve been abandoned.”


Policy Recommendations

The justices seemed to be searching for fixes. Responding to Justice Corrigan’s question about what “you’re asking for,” Mr. Schonbrun advocated various measures:

  1. Require class counsel to produce time sheets for review;
  2. Prohibit awarding fees as a percentage of money paid by the defendant as part of a settlement;
  3. Appoint a guardian for the class, paid by the class, in cases where class settlements are $1 million or more so the guardian can scrutinize any application for attorney’s fees;
  4. Appoint experts to help the class scrutinize billing records of class counsel in those cases where class counsel use experts to justify their fee applications;
  5. Award fees to class counsel at rates charged by “capable, competent” lawyers rather than at the rates charged by “celebrity” lawyers.


Mr. Schonbrun delivered a passionate argument, informed by decades of experience as objector’s counsel, although it was his first time in the California Supreme Court. In oral argument, he summarized the opposition as: “they want more money. They want more money. That’s what this case is about, and you shouldn’t give it to them.” Mr. Schonbrun argued the percentage method results in a windfall for counsel at the expense of the class. Mr. Schonbrun noted that, if fees were awarded as a percentage, then it would be “inappropriate” to use the same percentage – e.g. 33.33% – that is taken from “single client-lawyer” contingency fee agreements. The lower court had awarded Mr. Barnes 1/3 of the settlement fund as attorney’s fees.


Percentage Method With Lodestar Cross-Check

At times during the hearing, the justices seemed sympathetic to Mr. Schonbrun’s argument that the percentage method is flawed. Judge Liu remarked, “there is a House of Cards feel to all of this.” His comparison to the House of Cards – which portrays drug use, murder, and infidelity by politicians – was not a flattering portrayal of the status quo. However, despite these concerns, the general thrust of questioning indicated the justices might preserve the percentage method but subject it to a lodestar cross-check.


The justices posed multiple questions about the cross-check. For instance, Justice Chin asked Mr. Barnes, appellees’ counsel, “is there any reason not to cross check each time?” Mr. Barnes did not really answer the question but said there was no need for a cross-check in a case he worked on for seven years and for which he was awarded 1/3. Therefore, Justice Mariano-Florentino Cuéllar asked again, “why not have a cross check in every case?” Mr. Barnes said it would be a “burden” on the judge and the parties.


A lodestar cross-check is a method by which courts look at the hours expended, multiply those hours by the hourly rates, and then increase the overall figure by a “lodestar multiplier” such as 2 or 4 or 10.


Justice Werdegar noted the trial judge had awarded fees as a percentage of the settlement fund and, then, tested it with a lodestar cross-check. Mr. Schonbrun responded they can “attempt to falsely justify a percentage fee” by using a cross-check that supports the same figure. Justice Chin asked if the “multiplier” that is often used to increase the lodestar is “based on the risks in the case.” Mr. Schonbrun argued a lodestar cross-check can be misused for “reverse engineering” to support an inflated fee that is first calculated under the percentage method. Picking up on this language, both Justice Chin and Justice Liu used the term “reverse engineering” in their questioning.

Robert J. Gaudet, Jr. standing in front of the San Francisco City Hall adjacent to the building that houses the California Supreme Court, Friday, May 27, 2016.

Robert J. Gaudet, Jr. standing in front of the San Francisco City Hall adjacent to the building that houses the California Supreme Court, Friday, May 27, 2016.

The Prevalence of the Percentage Method

Justice Werdegar picked up on empirical data, presented in Prof. Rubenstein’s amicus curiae brief, that the “prevalent system” used by courts is to award fees as a percentage. She pointed this out to Mr. Schonbrun, saying federal and state courts have “adopted” the percentage method. Mr. Schonbrun referred her to a 2015 Columbia Law Review article[iii] that found the percentage method was not working. The article, as quoted in Mr. Schonbrun’s briefing, stated:


Even more troubling are our findings regarding the role of the courts in the fee-setting process. We found no evidence that the actions taken by the courts move class counsel’s fees closer to the “right price … In sum, there is little to celebrate in the current state of affairs, and reason to think that even small improvements in the fee-setting process might yield significantly better results.

Using this source, Mr. Schonbrun argued the percentage method is flawed and the Supreme Court should reinforce the message of Serrano III that the lodestar is the starting point for every fee award. Indicating her disagreement with Mr. Schonbrun, Justice Werdegar said, “tell us the flaws of the percentage method with the lodestar cross-check.” This question indicated, as did others, that the justices might prefer to keep the percentage method but require a lodestar cross-check. There was very little questioning about what might happen if the percentage method were rejected.


Court-Appointed Guardian For the Class

Mr. Schonbrun argued the Supreme Court should require trial courts to appoint a guardian to look after the interests of the class when class counsel ask for attorney’s fees to be awarded out of a settlement fund. When Justice Werdegar asked, “what should we do,” Mr. Schonbrun responded they should appoint a guardian in all cases over $1 million. Justice Werdegar said it was “too late” for this case but Mr. Schonbrun indicated they “can send it back” to the trial court. Chief Justice Cantil-Sakauye asked, “has any other court required a guardian?” Mr. Schonbrun said no but argued the first question was to determine if he was right, “is the class abandoned?” Although Mr. Schonbrun did not mention it in his argument, courts have appointed Special Masters, magistrates, and experts to assist with the administration of class actions.


Justice Werdegar asked, “was there a motion for a guardian,” indicating the justices might dispose of this suggestion on procedural grounds for not being properly raised in the lower courts. Mr . Schonbrun replied, “no” but said the Supreme Court had a fiduciary obligation to make sure the class is the predominant party. He suggested the court had standing to consider the issue under a fiduciary duty to protect class members.


Five Amicus Curiae

The amount of legal power that was deployed against Mr. Schonbrun was staggering. In addition to an opposition brief filed by class counsel Kevin Barnes, there were five opposition briefs filed by amici curiae, i.e., friends of the court. One of them was filed on behalf of eight class action law professors by San Francisco-based class action firm Lieff Cabraser. Mr. Schonbrun pointed out in his reply brief that some of these professors had served as paid experts on behalf of class counsel in other cases and, even, served as class counsel themselves, so they had obvious biases.   In the tobacco litigation, some of the same experts had supported fees as high as $21,000 per hour, as Mr. Schonbrun pointed out in a response to an amicus brief, because counsel (including Lieff Cabraser) were not satisfied with an award of $7,700 per hour as described by the Atlantic Monthly in an article titled “Greed on Trial.”  Other amici briefs were filed by the Impact Fund, Western Center on Law and Poverty and 14 unspecified California legal service organizations; Prof. William Rubenstein; Consumer Attorneys of California; and Working Wardrobes.


Arguments By Appellees

At the hearing, Kevin Barnes argued on behalf of appellees and Michael Rubin argued on behalf of amicus curiae Impact Fund. The issue of the trial court’s discretion was a common theme in their arguments. One of them argued the trial court’s discretion should be respected because the judge “lives with the case.” In his rebuttal argument, Mr. Schonbrun pointed out that the judge did not live with the case and that, in this instance, there had been four or five different trial judges. Justice Mariano-Florentino Cuéllar asked, “the judge in general does not have the responsibility [to review time sheets] with the cross check? What must a judge do?” Mr. Barnes said the judges have “discretion” to use the cross-check “if they want to.” Justice Werdegar asked if it “always starts with 1/3?” and Mr. Barnes said it was up to the judge’s “discretion.”


Asked how they should write the opinion if they agreed with Mr. Barnes, Mr. Barnes said the justices should tell trial courts they have “discretion, it is up to you.” Justice Mariano-Florentino Cuéllar noted, “discretion is a powerful word.” His comment and the generality of Mr. Barnes’s responses seemed to question whether the Supreme Court wants to leave full and unfettered discretion up to trial courts.   Testing the boundaries, Justice Mariano-Florentino Cuéllar asked Mr. Barnes “what do we say about the limits of a trial court’s discretion?” Mr. Barnes did not give any examples.


Apparently provoked by Mr. Barnes’s failure to note any limits, Justice Liu said it raises a “policy question” and asked “what is this based on” and “what justifies a multiplier except reverse engineering back from the multiplier?”   Mr. Barnes answered there is a “fair market value to these services.” Justice Liu asked, “by fair market value, do you mean what is adequate incentive to get a lawyer to take it?” Mr. Barnes replied, yes, and said the potential for default is more than the average case. Trying to help Mr. Barnes answer Justice Liu’s question, Justice Chin said, “so, it’s a cross-check, not reverse engineering?” Mr. Barnes replied “yes.” Justice Chin’s leading question, again, demonstrated the court might be leaning towards requiring a lodestar cross-check in its pending decision.


Justice Kruger asked Mr. Barnes, “if the [trial] court does not exercise a cross-check, how does the court know [the fee awarded as a percentage of the settlement] is not more than necessary?” Mr. Barnes answered, “based on the trial court’s experience.” Justice Werdegar asked how class counsel’s fiduciary duty works at the stage where they request fees, and Mr. Barnes replied, “the marketplace.” Justice Werdegar, perhaps trying to help Mr. Barnes elaborate upon his incomplete answer, asked “counsel’s integrity?” Mr. Barnes took the bait and said, “we have a client,” which suggests that he might have presented his fee petition to the class representative for review.


Justice Liu remarked, “all markets exist in a regulatory framework. If we want to toss out the percentage [method], are you saying there are cases nobody would take? Is there any empirical evidence for that?” Mr. Barnes did not directly answer but referred to the 1/3 contingence fee model.  Testing whether there are any limits to “discretion,” Justice Mariano-Florentino Cuéllar asked for an example of a “1/3 recovery that would not meet the [trial] court’s discretion?” Mr. Barnes said that if there was a $1 million recovery in a case worth $10 million where there were no depositions and the case was little litigated, then the judge should rule that a 1/3 fee is not reasonable because counsel “did no work on the case.”


When both Justice Mariano-Florentino Cuéllar and Justice Werdegar asked whether a trial court should review hours expended in time sheets, Mr. Barnes said the trial court had “discretion” and did not have to review time sheets.


In his oral argument, Mr. Rubin conceded, “we don’t [know]” when Justice Liu asked, when a court uses a “lodestar as cross-check, how do we know what is a reasonable multiplier: 2, 4, 5, 8, 10?” Mr. Rubin also said, “we do the best that our trial judges do based on their own experience.” Justice Liu asked, “is any multiplier too high?” Mr. Rubin responded, “no.” Justice Liu’s question indicated the Supreme Court has some interest in knowing whether there are any boundaries to a trial court’s discretion. Following on this theme, Justice Mariano-Florentino Cuéllar asked, “what if he multiplier is 1,000?” Mr. Rubin said “I’ve never seen that. I’ve seen over 20.”


Mr. Rubin’s candid responses were not likely to comfort the justices that there are reasonable bounds on discretion.  Justice Chin asked if “we should leave it to the discretion of the trial judge” and Mr. Rubin said, “yes.” Chief Justice Cantil-Sakauye seemed eager to bolster Mr. Rubin’s argument and asked him a leading question, noting these “cases go to highly specialized courts with staff selected for their experience with civil matters – that’s all they do. They do not got to general assignment, correct?” Mr. Rubin said, “yes.” The Chief Justice’s question indicates she might prefer to leave the choice of methodology up to the trial court.


Justice Liu compared the percentage method to executive compensation which is “laughable” and said the percentage method was “circular.” Mr. Rubin admitted, “there is some [circularity].” Mr. Rubin said there is “extraordinary risk” and “most people expect a percentage of recovery will go to lawyers. They see it on TV. This market has developed.” Mr. Rubin’s comment suggested single lawyer-single client cases, as advertised on TV, have conditioned class members to expect a percentage of any class settlement will go to class counsel. Mr. Rubin noted a “split between state and federal courts” and said, “state courts don’t require a load of detail or time records as [do] the federal courts.”


In rebuttal, Mr. Schonbrun pointed out, “they keep saying ‘market.’ There’s no market, there’s no competition.” Justice Liu stated, “we have to check these percentage fees against something – that has to be lodestar –what if we put some boundaries around that. What if we do that?” The Chief Justice then asked Mr. Schonbrun to clarify, “you want to prohibit the percentage under Serrano?” and Mr. Schonbrun said “yes, Serrano was right” and placing trust in “experienced [trial] judge is not enough.”



Justice Liu’s comments are instructive and possibly telling about the Supreme Court’s search for boundaries on a trial court’s discretion. Although Justice Liu had some of the strongest words of criticism, comparing a trial court’s discretion with the “House of Cards,” he also indicated “we have to check these percentage fees … [with the] lodestar [cross-check].” In other words, although it may seem like the House of Cards, Justice Liu does not seem inclined to overturn it by prohibiting the percentage method.


The questions posed by Justice Mariano-Florentino Cuéllar (asking if a multiplier of 1,000 would be too high), Justice Kruger (asking how do we know if fees are too high if we do not use a cross-check), Justice Werdegar (asking how class counsel’s fiduciary duties operate at the fee-setting stage), and Justice Liu (noting the percentage method is “circular” and it seems like the House of Cards) indicate a majority of the seven-member court has concerns over the boundaries on discretion. Mr. Barnes and Mr. Rubin did not suggest any boundaries but simply referred to a trial judge’s “experience” and seemingly unlimited “discretion.”


Given the line of questioning at the hearing, it seems possible the Supreme Court will impose new parameters, e.g. the use of a lodestar cross-check or a court-appointed guardian, on future fee applications in California state courts.

[i] Robert J. Gaudet, Jr. has served as class counsel in employment, consumer, breach of contract, discrimination, and other class actions and previously objected to class settlements and fee applications. He is licensed in Texas and Washington and cooperates with lawyers in other jurisdictions. Mr. Gaudet is the principal of RJ Gaudet & Associates LLC.

[ii] Serrano v. Priest (Serrano III), 20 Cal.3d 25, 141 Cal.Rptr. 315 (Cal. Oct. 4, 1977).

[iii] Lynn A. Baker, Michael A. Perino, and Charles Silver, Is the Price Right? An Empirical Study of Fee Setting in Securities Class Actions, 115 Colum. L. Rev. 1371 (Oct. 2015).


At the Berkeley law school graduation ceremony on May 13, 2016, Karin Gaudet-Asmus gave a speech as president of the LL.M. class with 200 students. There were thousands in attendance at the Hearst Greek Theater in Berkeley.

Karin Gaudet-Asmus at the graduation ceremony for the Berkeley LL.M. Program.

Karin Gaudet-Asmus at the graduation ceremony for the Berkeley LL.M. Program.

The ceremony celebrated the end of the one-year LL.M program with students from nearly 50 different countries as well as the end of the three-year J.D. program. During her term as Class president, Mrs. Gaudet-Asmus collaborated with students to organize cultural events, an end-of-the year ball at the Chabot observatory in Oakland, a boat trip around the San Francisco Bay, a new public service certificate for LL.M. graduates, and other events and celebrations. She also initiated a nationwide online network of LL.M. students at leading law schools. She tried to organize an event with all of the major bar exam preparation courses so students could compare their services and rates, but most of the prep courses refused the invitation to participate.

Karin Gaudet-Asmus Accepting Her Diploma From Berkeley Law's New Dean Melissa Murray

Karin Gaudet-Asmus Accepting Her Diploma From Berkeley Law’s New Dean Melissa Murray

As noted in her five-minute speech, an official copy of which may be viewed at this link, Mrs. Gaudet-Asmus intends to return to El Paso, Texas with her husband, Robert Joseph Gaudet, Jr. An unofficial recording of her speech, available at this link, includes the Berkeley law school dean’s introduction of Mrs. Gaudet-Asmus in which the Dean mentions Mrs. Gaudet-Asmus’s interest in returning to El Paso.

Mrs. Gaudet-Asmus was elected LL.M. Class president in a contested election with at least five candidates from France, Mexico, Brazil, and Japan. To the best of recollection, she was the first female LL.M. class president at Berkeley. Classmates and officials at the Advanced Degree Program office noted she did an amazing job as Class president. One student remarked she gave the best speech at graduation.

As a student, Mrs. Gaudet-Asmus earned “high honors,” the highest available grade, from some of her courses. She enjoyed the opportunity to learn from outstanding, knowledgeable, and nationally known instructors such as Judge William A. Fletcher of the U.S. Court of Appeals of the Ninth Circuit and Prof. Burt Neuborne of NYU who litigated class actions on behalf of Holocaust survivors and taught at Berkeley in the 2016 Spring term.

Joe P. Federici

Joseph Federici

In addition, Mr. Joseph Federici, who is Of Counsel at RJ Gaudet & Associates LLC, graduated this month from Georgetown University’s M.S. in Foreign Service Program. As a graduate student, he served as a teacher’s assistant for former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and improved his understanding of Afghanistan’s native language.

Congratulations to Mrs. Gaudet-Asmus and her classmates for their hard work and to Mr. Federici.